Magick Conversation

Today I had a conversation with Terence and Paora, concerning magick. Its a bit messy but I hope that it will help clarify some questions. And also revealed here is how to use the subconscious mind to cast spells.

Part 1

hEhHehHeh™ says:

hey what is magick

Aaron says:

the real magick?

Aaron says:

magic tends to refer to stage tricks

Aaron says:

magick tends to refer to the sorcery kind of magic

Aaron says:

but we tend to use Chaos Magick

hEhHehHeh™ says:

whats chaos magick

Aaron says:

that is me, shu en and donovan

hEhHehHeh™ says:

huh?

Aaron says:

its an empty handed magick

Aaron says:

without spells and potions

Aaron says:

did you read the email abt chaos magick?

hEhHehHeh™ says:

yeq

hEhHehHeh™ says:

in fact i red every email

hEhHehHeh™ says:

some i understand soem not

Aaron says:

yea, thats good...

Aaron says:

Aaron says:

do you know whats visualisation?

hEhHehHeh™ says:

err

hEhHehHeh™ says:

means u visualise soemthing?

Aaron says:

yea, when you vividly imagine something

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o ok

Aaron says:

it works of course, but an instant visualisation is what we (the League) classify it as magick

Aaron says:

that means the thing happen instantly after we visualise it

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o

Aaron says:

now is the age of science

Aaron says:

but the return of magick will come soon

Aaron says:

magick is similar to science except we are more open to ideas


hEhHehHeh™ just sent you a Nudge!


hEhHehHeh™ says:

oops sorry

Aaron says:

eg. why everytime when we hurry we meet a red light

Aaron says:

thats ok

Aaron says:

scientists will say

Aaron says:

our feelings have no impact whatsover

Aaron says:

so they ignore it

Aaron says:

but magicians will try to find out

Aaron says:

and have you heard abt the idea that the universe is a hologram?

Aaron says:

its all fake

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o ok

Aaron says:

we are infinite beings of power

Aaron says:

but we are trapped in this holographic body, which limits us

Aaron says:

but of course, some can use more power (the psychics)

Aaron says:

u realise that they can move things we cannot...

Aaron says:

or that they can tell the future

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o

Aaron says:

do you have any psychic experiences?

hEhHehHeh™ says:

no

hEhHehHeh™ says:

lol

hEhHehHeh™ says:

do u have nay

Aaron says:

yup

Aaron says:

mine is more on warnings..

Aaron says:

a few seconds before things happen

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o

Aaron says:

now I practising detachment

Aaron says:

more of a buddhist philosophy

hEhHehHeh™ says:

detachent?

Aaron says:

that means external events should not affect me

Aaron says:

that is the goal of all buddhists

Aaron says:

then the become an arhat

Aaron says:

i think its luohan

Aaron says:

in chinese

hEhHehHeh™ says:

whats the leagye of advanced scientisrts

Aaron says:

sentients

Aaron says:

lol

Aaron says:

its a group I am trying to start now

Aaron says:

trying to 'educate' the masses that you are the controller of your own life

Aaron says:

not external forces

Aaron says:

we practise magick

Aaron says:

at least those involved in the magick department

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o

hEhHehHeh™ says:

then

hEhHehHeh™ says:

do u noe how to curse

Aaron says:

not a particularly good idea

Aaron says:

but yes

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o

Aaron says:

a revenge spell would work bette

Aaron says:

r

hEhHehHeh™ says:

revenge spell?

Aaron says:

yea

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o

hEhHehHeh™ says:

how do u do that

hEhHehHeh™ says:

is it black magic


PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... has been added to the conversation.


Aaron says:

i dun consider a revenge spell black magick

Aaron says:

but an attack spell yes

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Wow

Aaron says:

but we have to go to the basics

Aaron says:

do you know about karma?

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

A little

Aaron says:

its generally that if we give out positive energy, we get back positive energy and vice-versa

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Ok

Aaron says:

all your thoughts affect others

hEhHehHeh™ says:

hello

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Hey Aaron's friend

hEhHehHeh™ says:

hi

Aaron says:

so for eg. you are affecting george w bush

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Who am I typing to?

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Ok

Aaron says:

if you are burning his pictures or cursing him

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Is it like a voo doo but without the doll

Aaron says:

erm, Paora is from NZ and you are speaking to terence

Aaron says:

yea

hEhHehHeh™ says:

o ok

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Ohk

Aaron says:

a doll is a psychic link to the person

Aaron says:

it makes it more effective

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

oH wow

Aaron says:

so we can affect people with our thoughts

Aaron says:

now...as I have written before

Aaron says:

whatever that gives us our psychic power is our subconscious mind

Aaron says:

it is our link to God

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Yup

Aaron says:

and that gives us infinite power

Aaron says:

to access that power

Aaron says:

we have to go to a meditative state

Aaron says:

the Alpha or Theta

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

What is that?

Aaron says:

brainwave states

Aaron says:

awake-Beta

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Oh Yeah

Aaron says:

meditative-Alpha

Aaron says:

light sleep- Theta

Aaron says:

Sleep- Delta

Aaron says:

alpha increases our link to the subconscious mind

Aaron says:

we can find all the answers we want there

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Ohk is it like hypnosis

Aaron says:

yes

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

ok

Aaron says:

but hypnosis is to get the person the alpha state

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Yeah

Aaron says:

then use suggestions to get the person to do something

Aaron says:

because the subconscious mind only listens

Aaron says:

it doesn't respond

hEhHehHeh™ says:

does eveyrone haave the subconcios mind

Aaron says:

yes

Aaron says:

our brain is a receiver

Aaron says:

so that we can see the holographic images of this holographic universe

Aaron says:

that is why people with only 10% of the brain that we have are still very smart

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

So if we are trying to connect through to someone elses mind what do we get back?

Aaron says:

when we cast a spell

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Yes

Aaron says:

(good qn btw)

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

please

Aaron says:

we should do it late at night

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

What is going to happen?

Aaron says:

because, the subconscious mind is accessed easily at night

Aaron says:

when your target is sleeping

Aaron says:

when you target is sleeping, he loses much of his defences to his mind

Aaron says:

so if you want to cast a spell (control people, make people love you etc.) do it when they are asleep

hEhHehHeh™ says:

how do u cast one

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Well our time is different.. so what time you looking at?

Aaron says:

yea

Aaron says:

its 11:30 am now

Aaron says:

but I am thinking of people in your own country

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

What time at night?

Aaron says:

its doesnt matter as long as the person is asleep

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Ok

Aaron says:

yea, so to cast a spell

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

I think I saw this on a movie

Aaron says:

we need to be in the alpha state

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Now?

Aaron says:

when you want to cast the spell

Aaron says:

whever

Aaron says:

whenever*

Aaron says:

so I suggest you use a guided meditation

Aaron says:

like holosync

Aaron says:

or a free one can be listened to at

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

i don't know how to meditate properly.. haha

Aaron says:

i dun usually meditate properly

hEhHehHeh™ says:

whats the alpha state

Aaron says:

i can't focus either

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

haha

Aaron says:

its when you are half asleep and half awake

Aaron says:

when your brainwave slows and focuses

Aaron says:

focusing is very important

Aaron says:

it increases your power

Aaron says:

so we meditate for maybe 10 minutes

Aaron says:

then we visualise in our mind

Part 2

(we were interrupted)

Aaron says:

so i was saying to use a meditation exercise to get to the alpha state

you will be calm and relaxed at the alpha state

yet alert

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

ohk, what do we do after that?

Aaron says:

then it depends on what you want

if you want to control people

then you visualise them doing what you want them to do

if you want to cast a revenge spell

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

So if you want someone to talk and your in the alpha state, they will talk in whichever you want them to say?

Aaron says:

you politely and kindly ask the universe to return to them what they have given out

if you want to connect to people in the alpha state

you generally imagine a conversation with them

or if you feel they don't want to talk

then just send them love

because ur thoughts will also affect them

if you want to cast an attack spell

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Hey Aaron could you please send me the information in the email.. that will be awesome

Aaron says:

ok

i will save this

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Yay

Aaron says:

so, if you want to cast an attack spell

you absorb all the negative energies and send it to them

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

ok

Aaron says:

visualise a dark aura destroying them

it is also known as a psychic attack

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

like them Blowing up?

Aaron says:

haha

yea

or you can create a magic symbol

meaning

if your symbol of death is a grave

then keep imagining sending them graves

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Ah i getcha

what will happen?

Aaron says:

generally people with psychic attacks they will have negative thoughts and they may even fall sick

it depends on how strong your attacks are

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

so i may think of a zombie and make it chase after my sister, wow im evil.. haha

Aaron says:

haha

but whatever you give out

it will come back to you

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

oh i will not do that then

Aaron says:

so you need to clean ur aura often by imagining a white cleansing light around you

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

aH

Aaron says:

i rather do a revenge spell by asking the universe to take revenge for me

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Whats that?

Aaron says:

just tell the universe when you are in your alpha state

to return whatever the person has given out

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

like while you are in the half sleep mode?

Aaron says:

if he has truly hurt you

yea

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

has it worked for you before

?

Aaron says:

the revenge one yes

i'm not sure if the attack one did though

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Wow that is very cooL

oh

Aaron says:

but the best is to still love ur enemies...it will sometime make them ur friend

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

Ahh

Yeah

Aaron says:

it heals the world if you bless others

PAORA: Add me on 'Bebo' the URL is "http://-I-LUV-M3nA-SuVaRi-.bebo.com" ohk lOlz.... says:

ohk, so do I speak "i am in the alpha state" aloud then something shall happen?

Brb

Aaron says:

no...

you calm yourself, by taking deep breaths and focusing on your breath for around a minute?



Lastly, you should always have faith in your abilities. Faith is extrememly important. And, I have only currently used the attack once (not sure if it worked) and the karmic revenge one. The revenge spell works well for me. I never used magick to control others or cast love spells yet, because some of my spells have a tendency to backfire, causing more trouble haha :) And those of you who are thinking, sometimes love spells are more complicated and unless you know what to do I suggest you stay away from it.

I never used these spells as I find it unethical as a Magician to gain an advantage over others. I recommend visualisation. Chaos Magick is considered a kind of visualisation to some people.

Once you cast your spell, let it go. Don't keep going over it again to see if it worked. Be confident, and just let the spell or visualisation do its magick.


Aaron Chia

Professor Emeritus of the ULC
Lord Protector
The League of Advanced Sentients